• jacksilver@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    The top comment in the posted image is just stupid, food takes work, like a lot of work. Whether the land is private/public/something else, it takes a lot of work to maintain a steady supply of food.

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      15 days ago

      Yes, food takes a lot of work. But we’re a lot of people with very advanced technology. If we got rid of a few bullshit and counter-productive jobs, the work each and everyone of us would have to do would vanish in comparison to today’s hustle culture.

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        15 days ago

        I think the problem with your messaging here is because it focuses more on the fact that we could restructure society to meet people’s needs rather than profits, but your post doesn’t really describe how we get from here to there. Obviously agitprop is short and oversimplified, but some subjects work better with added context.

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      15 days ago

      like a lot of work

      It really doesn’t tho, not inherently. I’ve worked ag throughout my life and there’s nothing about food production in and of itself that’s quantitatively a lot of work.

      The hardest it gets historically is subsistence farming with no commons/wilds, and that generally isn’t gonna be close to the 2,000 hours of labor a year that we now consider the minimum. Hunter/gatherer is gonna average less than 4 hours a day (large variations globally and historically ofc). In a well-maintained food forest even less than that.

      Technology has increased food production efficiency like a thousandfold, to where a single person’s worth of labor can produce enough food for dozens to hundreds of people.

      What is a lot of work, though, is being forced to produce surplus value for a non-working owner class. That held true for the peasants working 1,000-1,500 hours a year to feed themselves and their lords, and it holds true for the workers currently working 2,000-4,000 a year to feed themselves and fatten bosses and landlords. That’s the whole point of the post, to describe the enclosure of the commons.