• boonhet@sopuli.xyz
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    16 days ago

    Maybe, but then if you abolish wage-labour, you just have a different type of work needed to survive. Either you’re going off-grid and living all on your own, which would mean you don’t have a lot, but you’re truly independent - or you’re part of a society where you don’t get paid a wage, but instead receive certain living conditions similar to everyone else’s, and you’re expected to work to the best of your ability.

    Yes, working for a wage is unnatural. But then being part of a large society with super specialized roles is unnatural. We’ve been doing unnatural for thousands of years now.

    • Prunebutt@slrpnk.netOP
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      15 days ago

      Maybe, but then if you abolish wage-labour, you just have a different type of work needed to survive

      The point is that this kind of work is less alienating.

      Either you’re going off-grid and living all on your own, which would mean you don’t have a lot, but you’re truly independent

      I’m not arguing for that, since it’s not a realistic scenario.

      or you’re part of a society where you don’t get paid a wage, but instead receive certain living conditions similar to everyone else’s, and you’re expected to work to the best of your ability.

      Cool, where do I sign up?

      Yes, working for a wage is unnatural. But then being part of a large society with super specialized roles is unnatural. We’ve been doing unnatural for thousands of years now.

      I don’t want to succumb to the naturalistic fallacy here. I think it makes people miserable, since it runs counter to our brain structure. I don’t think you can say the same thing about large societies (the amount of people you interact with has a natural limit and there’s a natural need for humans to be social).