CynAq

there’s always that one bootlicker

I just preemptively blocked the community for my account. I’d recommend everyone do the same until, and if they prove to be a problem.
I think instead of calling for pre-blocks or defederation of entire instances, we have to be vigilant and keep a close eye on the discussions going on around us.

I’m saying this not because I’m an “enlightened centrist” living in a delusion of tolerance or a fascist in disguise. I am as left leaning, antifascist, and antiauthoritarian as they get. I’m just saying this as I know from experience that there’s no real way to eliminate people with bigoted views from our communities other than on an individual basis.

Ban an entire instance, you’ll still have to block the individuals if they come one by one to stir shit up on your turf. Just skip the first part and go for the individual communities and users. They will simply find each other and form groups, as instances or otherwise anyway.

I know it’s not ideal, but there’s no real way to prevent these fascist groups from forming anywhere there’s a large enough number of people. We can only block our own interaction with them and form counter groups, and actively fight against their bigotry.

I believe this is the sad truth we all have to live with, at least for the time being, because I can’t see defederation as an effective tool.

The only choice most people have is between being an outcast, and sucking it up and using whatever everyone else is using. Some people are natural trend-setters, most are followers and there are those who want to do things for good reasons rather than copying everyone else. That last group of people have an uphill battle because their lifestyle requires thought and deliberation, which is something most people aren’t willing to do, sadly.

Good thing you happened to be popular then. It’s akin to self-ostracizing for most, especially young people.

Helping everyone according to their needs and letting them live as they like vs using any means necessary to establish hegemony over people not in your group, isn’t a difference of opinion.

It’s a quite literal life vs death struggle.

I’d suggest adding something like “even though you can access the content on other instances, the user experience will differ depending on which instance you sign up for”.

A good analogy would be using Facebook vs Twitter but being able to follow and post content cross platform from either of them.

One will not look and feel like the other, but they will let you read and reply to content from the other one.

For good measure add in reddit, hacker news, and discord in there too to help people visualize.

It’s also important to give people a few clear instance examples to check out, but you already did enough of that I think.

Holy moly, that’s insane!

I do all of those things too because why wouldn’t I?
Is there anything as to the outcome of the arrests? Also what was the reason in the first place for the police to be interested in these people?

I don’t agree with the “it doesn’t matter which one you join” part because each instance offers a different user experience, even though technically they are interconnected, and depending on mostly the size of the instance someone chooses, their experience can make or break the usability of the fediverse in their eyes.

I think people should be directed to instances with already vibrant communities and then when they learn the ropes, they’ll find their best fit anyway.