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How many times do we have to watch venture capitalists enshittify services before people learn.

In reality maybe they consider the fediverse worse than the “enshittified” venture capitalist backed service?

And if you have to rely on Proton, you’re in the same situation as with OpenAI/Google/Mistral etc (I am speculating, but I highly doubt an enterprise subscription to say Google Gemini allows Google to leverage the prompt/output data).

yeah to me it looks like just a consumer targeted version of enterprise versions of gemini/chatgpt etc

openai looks to have a simple option to turn off using your data to train so the only truly unique thing appears to be encrypted storage of the chats

the quality of Proton’s LLM output is noticeably worse than with say Gemini

yeah they got a long way to go, im still using mistral and claude mainly

i don’t think they’re saying that the processing of your llm query is encrypted, just storage of the chat and the lack of your input data being used for further training or sharing (this is quite important to businesses who don’t want their data to leak)

With no logs kept and every chat encrypted, Lumo keeps your conversations confidential and your data fully under your control — never shared, sold, or stolen.

it sounds like they are saying they don’t use your data and encrypt it so only you can read it, i assume the same as they do with protonmail?

how is the llm not actually private?

how is a local llm seeing how the sausage is made?

Klarna is like a payment layer on top of a payment processor, different things, even they recommend stripe:

https://docs.klarna.com/

tbf not sure if anything the EU makes can compete with it

LOL lemmy moment

Like this one?

In 2024, approximately 7,500 millionaires left the UK, a figure that was already cause for concern among UK policymakers. However, in 2025, this number has more than doubled to a record 16,500, marking the steepest annual increase of HNWI net outflows on record.

https://www.forthcapital.com/au/articles/2025-wealth-migration-why-a-record-16-500-millionaires-are-leaving-the-uk-and-where-theyre-going

damn that sucks :/

i wouldn’t bother to much asking about manliness around these parts, if it was all just made up as they say they wouldn’t care when i call them the wrong pronouns since that’s just made up as well

turns out things that are “just made up” still matter

but you’ve got a whole real life wife so that counts for a bundle👍

i didn’t know you could do that

edit: also most evil two paragraphs you have ever read in your life? really?

I saw recently they are preparing for this

https://lmstudio.ai/blog/free-for-work

Commercial Plans

LM Studio is a conduit for open source models and AI software. It’s meant to be the first place you go to try new models, and a place where you can do professional grade work over months and years. In addition to the app, we’re also shipping the LM Studio SDK and recently the Hub. The LM Studio Hub is where you can share your LM Studio “stuff”: things you create within the app or with the SDK.

Putting all these things together, companies often have a need for fine-grained control over the models (and recently MCPs) their users can run, or require access control capabilities for various artifacts (presets, configurations, etc.) shared within the team.

Later this week, we will introduce a way to create a public Hub organization for your team, and use it with LM Studio at work (or school, or anywhere) for free. For companies that require more advanced features like SSO, model / MCP gating, and private collaboration: we are offering an Enterprise plan. A growing list of Fortune 500 companies, universities, and global organizations are already using LM Studio for Enterprise. If this sounds like something you need, contact us to get started.

In line with reducing friction for using LM Studio at work, we will also be introducing a simple self-serve Teams plan later this month that enables sharing various artifacts privately within your team. Sign up to be notified when it becomes available.

Then why are you defending it?

I’m not defending it, you were just way off base about it and then decided to double down, who’s the AI now? 😉

ChatGPT steals many of the features from other LLM’s and websites, bit like how Microsoft and Apple and Linux all copy and steal from each other

Yes, the summary is right

Great! Turns out AI doesn’t hallucinate everything, it might actually be useful! 🤣

And if that’s the case then you need not worry! If you are worried about the accuracy of a statement you can click on the links provided.

This allows you to do 2 things:

1. on things you are looking for an approximation of you get immediate results (Benefit of using AI)
2. if you would like to look further into the results you can click on the links like a regular search engine (benefit of integrated search results)

Like how many times does it need to repeat the same thing over and over again?

Because I want it to be and I like it this way :) if you prefer all responses to be more brief you can change it using the system prompt:

I asked it to say the same thing but to be brief:

The phrase suggests skepticism about AI’s ability to accurately summarize web content without introducing errors or distortions, likening the process to a “game of telephone” where information gets garbled as it passes through multiple layers (e.g., original source → AI interpretation → human sharing). The user is implying that relying on AI for this could lead to misinformation.

The cool thing is that no search engine can assist in such a personalised way like this

This is cool as heck:

Anyway thanks for your time, time to sleep

You use AI for writing prompts? That’s pretty cool, a lot of people use AI for writing prompts, a lot of writers say it’s great for getting rid of writers block

I don’t use ChatGPT, I use LM Studio which runs Local LLMs (it’s like AI you can run locally on your PC, I have solar and a solar battery so this means there’s no co2 emissions from my queries, I primarily use this for coding questions and practice, translations from Russian/Ukrainian/French, practising french, etc), then I use mistral AI second (french based), then third perplexity (american)

I also use Ecosia.org for searches as well

I asked mistralai/mistral-small-3.2 to elaborate on what you said, Is this what you meant?

The phrase “Let’s just keep adding more and more layers like a game of telephone!” is a metaphorical way of expressing skepticism or concern about the accuracy and reliability of information as it gets passed through multiple layers of interpretation, especially when involving AI systems.

Here’s what it likely means in this context:

1. Game of Telephone Analogy: In the classic “game of telephone” (or “Chinese whispers”), a message is whispered from one person to another in a line, and by the time it reaches the end, the original message is often distorted or completely changed due to mishearing, misinterpretation, or intentional alteration. The user is suggesting that relying on AI systems to search, summarize, or interpret web content might introduce similar layers of potential inaccuracies or biases.

2. Layers of Interpretation: The “layers” could refer to the steps involved in using an AI system to access and summarize information:

   • The original web content (first layer).
   • The AI’s interpretation or summarization of that content (second layer).
   • Any further human interpretation or sharing of the AI’s output (additional layers).

3. Concerns About Accuracy: The user might be implying that each additional “layer” (especially when involving AI) could introduce errors, biases, or misinterpretations, much like how a message gets distorted in the game of telephone.

4. Hostility Toward AI: Given the context you provided (Lemmy users being “strongly anti-AI”), this comment likely reflects a broader distrust of AI’s ability to accurately and reliably convey information without introducing new problems.

In essence, the user is cautioning against blindly trusting AI systems to handle information retrieval and summarization, suggesting that doing so could lead to a breakdown in accuracy or meaning, similar to how a message degrades in a game of telephone.

What do you mean?

It’s all good, Lemmy users are strongly anti-ai and are genuinely learning right now that chatgpt, mistral, perplexity etc can search the web

chatGPT: I asked my hairstylist their uninformed opinion on a world event based on overheard conversations

LLM’s have been able to search the web for a few years now

The main one outside of ChatGPT is https://www.perplexity.ai/

You can also look at hosting your version with Local LLM’s:

https://olares.medium.com/building-a-local-perplexity-alternative-with-perplexica-ollama-and-searxng-71602523e256

what do you mean? it’s like being angry that people bring up I googled something