geekwithsoul

No one ever gets to be a Nazi “ironically” - pretend to be a Nazi, and you’re a Nazi. He could agree with me on a dozen issues, and he’d still be a Nazi (and it might make me question that much agreement). Seems awfully convenient all these recent forays into Linux and talking about degoogling - almost like after years of keeping a lower profile, he and his team are trying really hard to rehabilitate his public image.

This isn’t YouTuber “drama” - this is a guy who repeatedly engaged in very public examples of bigotry and parroting Nazi symbols and salutes. So yeah - we do in fact know.

Less nice: the arcs of nazisms and bigotry

I think the difference is that sealioning is a pattern of behavior, rather than just occasionally asking for a source. It describes the lack of intent to engage in good faith discussion and instead just is a method of trolling.

One other thing I haven’t seen mentioned is selling ice cream is only a sustainable business for a few months out of the year in many places. Whereas you can sell burgers/dogs/etc year-round. But yeah, as far as I know they’ve always sold fast food - their burgers were a fave of mine when I was a kid in the 70s.

Just a suggestion - don’t say you “created” something when you then go on to say you had AI do it for you.

Ha! Was curious and just checked - they recently banned me from the same communities. I certainly don’t go looking for AI stuff to downvote but probably have done so a couple times if I see it in /all and it’s egregiously bad. Guess that was too much for them.

Imagine being so incredibly fragile that you ban folks because they downvoted a post on a site where karma doesn’t exist and you had an AI create the content you posted.

I think as more people get sick of AI bullshit, the cheerleaders are seeing the reaction and thinking it’s some dark conspiracy when it’s just folks saying “Hmm, that’s kinda crappy, isn’t?”

Like all of his fanboys, you first attempted to minimize his history by saying it was all about him saying the “N” word. When I said it was actually more than that and provided info about the most egregious example, you said “oh, that was so long ago!”. I provide info on another incident from 3 years ago, and you’re complaining about how I’m trying to castrate the guy.

If you don’t like factual statements about his history of behavior and the obvious patterns, maybe don’t idolize an asshole? But don’t come into public spaces and try and sell it as “Oh, he just said a naughty word once. Isn’t weird how upset people were about that? He was young/it was a long time ago/he’s changed now.”

Yeah, because there hasn’t been anything since then, right?

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/youtube-star-apologizes-controversial-video-220742348.html

Or does the counter automatically get reset every time there’s another apology video? There have been so many, after all.

The lengths some of you all go to in order to defend a racist, Nazi-cosplaying edgelord who makes fun of people with disabilities is a little insane.

“Kjellberg tacitly compares himself to Hitler, gives a Nazi salute, and shows a series of clips of Nazi imagery, including a crowd of Nazis saluting, Nazi soldiers marching, and footage of Hitler Youth.”

Yeah, if you don’t see “nazi” after that, that’s on you I think.

More so for being/cosplaying (same thing) as a fucking nazi https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/2/17/14613234/pewdiepie-nazi-satire-alt-right

Wow, this was an actual thing https://archive.org/details/1954-10_IF

The Man With One Red Shoe is much worse than Joe Versus the Volcano. And if made for TV movies count, you have to throw in Mazes and Monsters. Oh and Bonfire of the Vanities was a famous flop. And Volunteers was pretty bad. People forget how bad some of his early stuff was.

Hell, both Forrest Gump and Castaway were tremendously overrated. Also the unwatchable Cloud Atlas and the stupid Dan Brown movies.

<suddenly dawns on me that Tom Hanks makes a lot of bad movies>

If it’s an air quality monitor, they likely need to move it around to get different sampling areas.

“He’s actually a pretty cool guy.”

Parasocial relationship much?

Oh wow. UM really is just a malignancy that refuses to go away, isn’t he? I’m all for allowing different opinions but if someone keeps peeing in the pool, sooner or later you stop letting him in.

On Bluesky, if you block the creator of the pack, it removes you from it. I would be surprised if the folks creating this on Mastodon didn’t do the same.

You can choose to be removed from a pack, but it requires blocking the account that created the pack.

This is sort of hilarious that he didn’t know who he was replying to.

I think we’re talking about different time periods. In the time I’m talking about, before AOL connected with Usenet, the number of high school kids on the actual internet could probably be measured in double digits. There were BBSes, which had their own wonderful culture, but they had trolls and villains in a way that Usenet did not.

It was higher than you think. While an outlier, realize WarGames came out in 1983. I grew up in the suburbs of DC, and by 1986, a number of us had modems and regularly dialed into local BBSes. Basically as soon as we got 2400 bits/s, it started to get more widespread. And honestly since we usually knew the admin running the BBS we dialed into, there were less serious trolling issues. But newsgroups were another matter - usually folks were pretty much anonymous and from all over, and while there could be a sense of community, there were healthy amounts of trolls. What you’re describing is the literal exact opposite of my own lived experience. Nothing wrong with that, and doesn’t mean either of us are wrong, just means different perspectives/experiences.

I definitely don’t think this is true. That’s the whole “eternal September” thing.

I mean, it was my literal experience as a user. And it wasn’t just September, the first wave was June when high schoolers started summer break and spent considerable time online, and then the second wave in September with college kids. Honestly the second wave wasn’t as bad, as the college kids were using their university’s connection and they usually had some idea that if they went too far there might be consequences. Whereas the summer break latchkey high school kids were never that worried about any consequences.

I’m mostly talking about the volunteer internet. I don’t have any active accounts on commercial social media, even for business things.

I know, but that’s part of my point. The things that make online places feel safe, welcoming, and worthwhile are the same regardless if volunteer or commercial. I absolutely loved 2007 - 2012 early Twitter - it actually felt like the best of my old BBS/Usenet days but with much better scope. But I haven’t regularly been on there since 2016-ish, and completely left Reddit in July of last year (despite having had an account since 2009). For me the volunteer and federated social media has the best shot at being a “good” place, but I don’t have a philosophical objections to seeing commercial social media become less horrible, and in terms of understood and agreed upon social contract, I think approaching both with the same attitude should be encouraged.

We don’t need the commercial social media to fail for us to succeed, we need to change how people think about how they participate in online spaces and how those spaces should be managed and by whom.