The issue with them right now is there’s no update mechanism. If you use something as a system extension that depends on a library in the image, and that library gets updated, you could have an unbootable system or at the very least a non-functioning application until you can update your system extension manually.

Ideally that update mechanism needs to be a part of bootc so if your system extension is part of your boot process it can be updated ahead of time before the image is loaded.

We’ve looked at it since it’s inception and it’s something we really want, it’s just nowhere near ready yet.

I also said ublue is free to do what they want

Thank the lord we have your permission

They should be scared, we’re here to replace their 30-year failed experiment with tech that’s already successful everywhere Linux makes money.

No they have CUDA. The open driver from Nvidia just means the kernel module has an open source license. They are still the same proprietary pieces of shit that you know and love from a user space perspective.

I disagree with you fundamentally, if it wasn’t for the simple updates and stability this would not have the success that it does. The image is part of the model.

It offers a straightforward onboarding process because it’s image based. The model is part of the success.

Only on Aurora, we don’t ship that.

You don’t use the terminal to do updates, updates are automatic by default.

We also completely removed discovers ability to update OSTree. It’s never been present in a single build of Bazzite.

This is why I don’t pay attention to people that complain about toolkits. You don’t like the way it looks so you make up absolutely disingenuous points to argue about it.

Yes, we are. It’s exactly why it shouldn’t be done and why Fedora is the only project wasting their time with this.

Bazzite is not immutable, and SteamOS is as mainstream as it gets while being A/B root immutable.

All of them ship Flathub because it’s ready for public consumption.

If the attempt here is to argue that cloud native isn’t mainstream and change topics from flathub, you are proudly in a bubble of 3% of the computing industry while your peers in the Linux server space and Android run circles around you.

If they behave anything like what Fedora did, yes.

OBS chose Flathub as their official default supported option for their software. Fedora took that software, modified it to update dependencies they weren’t ready to use yet, and then put it on their store in a completely broken state with all of OBS’s trademarks intact and in a way that made it preferred over the official one, and then fought OBS over removing it for months while it racked up support requests from unsuspecting users (victims of Fedora’s shitty policies).

That’s irrelevant to this conversation

The legal threats were credible and resulted in yet more wasted developer time removing that package instead of the entire useless repo.

You’re forgetting that millions of Steam Deck consoles have been sold and all of them are flathub exclusive.

On top of that you have: Mint, Vanilla OS, Endless OS, OpenMandriva, PopOS!, Clear Linux, PureOS, ZorinOS, KDE Neon, GNOME OS, Salix, and many others all shipping flathub by default.

Fedora is in a very exclusive group of distros dumb enough to ship their own flatpak repo.

Bringing up Distrowatch stats and “Echo chamber” in the same comment is the most absurd thing I’ve seen this year.

They’re already mainstream, any belief otherwise is ridiculous to the point of being parody.

Meanwhile you have Fedora getting legal threats because they’re shipping broken software in their own flatpak repo that exists only to waste developer time and project resources at the expense of its users and their experience.

No it’s still unfiltered, we just removed 3 footguns that are pre-installed in the image anyway.

Second best selling consumer Linux platform on the planet, second only to Android.

Bazzite is popular precisely because we ignore bad opinions such as these. Flathub is mainstream and all the whinging in the world isn’t going to change that.

It was rescinded

I also don’t understand them

distrobox is not a vm