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      The Axis probably shouldn’t have invented the modern concept of total war then.

      Would you like to see a picture of some Chinese infants the IJA spit roasted on a bayonet, then published in the newspaper because they were proud of the murderer for winning a literal baby murder competition?

      Because I’ve seen it. Maybe you should too so you can actually understand what the Imperial Japanese militarist cult really meant.

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        What’s the ratio of innocents to guilty people you’d like to see killed to satisfy your need for revenge, then?

        Dropping the bombs was verifiably not about beating Japan or saving american lives. It was purely to stop the Soviets from joining the Pacific theater, so they wouldn’t get their seat at the peace negotiations.

        The Japanese military were monsters, and many civilians were on board with it. It is still wrong to bomb civilians. And that’s what this was, there wasn’t even a pretext of this being about military targets.

        And I’ve seen the images you’re talking about. I also know of the rape of Nanjing, and the experiments done by unit 731. I know of the institutionalized rape, slavery, and mass murder committed by Japan. None of this makes me want to justify mass murder of civilians in response. The perpetrators can rot in the deepest pits of whatever hell is worst, but collective punishment, especially of civilians, is never justifiable.

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          Truly the Allies should have just taken a million casualties while killing many, many more Japanese than the bombs did in the invasion.

          I am smart and have read thousands of pages of commentary and history on this exact historical situation to form my opinion.

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              Your insight, breadth of knowledge, and reading comprehension astound.

              Murder of civilians and collective punishment, lmao.

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                  Sure fam, that’s why you could figure out why a nation “on the verge of surrender” tried to call America’s bluff on the second bomb, even though they were given a three day gap to come to terms with reality, and even then they still had an attempted military coup to prevent the “loss of honor.”

                  Must be because they cared so much about the Soviet advance and the near total destruction of their navy and air force, right? Can’t possibly be that a small group of revisionist academics were wrong about one analysis meant more to discourage further atomic bomb usage than reaching an honest conclusion.

                  That or you just think Allied soldiers were subhumans whose lives mattered less than those of a determined and almost entirely fascist population.

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                    All your questions are answered in the video I linked. Watch it, and don’t bother me with your genocidal fantasies, please.

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                    All your questions are answered in the video I linked. Watch it, and don’t bother me with your genocidal fantasies, please.

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        Cool, want to compare them to the images of many more babies boiled alive by the bomb? Or of the walking dead?

        You can’t argue y’all are the good guys if you stop atrocity with a much larger atrocity, and then hire some of the people who were in charge of different atrocities in Germany.

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      Dropping the nukes likely saved several million more civilians lives,Imperial Japan was a truly horrific state which genuinely outstripped the third Reich at times in cruelty.