They are denying us the power of the digital age, taking it for themselves.

If the economy doesn’t need 25% of the populace to keep functioning…what happens?

No-one in big business does.

Advertising exists to manipulate behavior beneficial to clients, out of target groups. It is propaganda and psychological manipulation. The days of simply informing people of products and services is a fairy tale. Maddison Avenue was built off of Nazi Germany’s mass media propaganda strategies.

But you can’t construct sentences that produce value from AI while others can.

Inform disagree about the benefits of those skills, I just question whether we’ll still effectively produce adults who have them. People are lazy and they’ll take a good enough solution through AI than a better solution through their own effort, children are particularly prone to this. On the other side we have billion dollar companies that would love nothing more than a population completely dependent on their devices to survive, whose AI divisions are mostly unregulated and and whoa re currently collusion in a dictatorial overthrow of Americans democracy, so I don’t think they give a shit if our kid’s lives end up fucked up from a lack of critical thinking. They aren’t held accountable for anything their technologies do to us.

Yes it is. The creators don’t fully know what their own products are capable of or how best to use them. If you are dependent on others to tell you how to use this new tool, you will be behind the curve.

No, it very much isn’t. AI is a mass data analysis tool with vastly greater capabilities than any human counterpart.

It is, and they should, but that doesn’t mean they will. GenZ and GenA has notable communication and social issues rooted in the technologies of today. Those issue aren’t stopping our use of social media, smart phones or tablets or stopping tech companies from doubling down on the technologies that cause the issues. I have no faith they will protect future children when they have refuse to protect present children.

What I mean is that much like parents who already put a tablet or TV in front of their kid to keep them occupied, parents will do the same with AI. When a kid is talking to an AI every day, they will learn to communicate their wants and needs to the AI. But AI has infinite patients, is always available, never makes their kid feel bad and can effectively infer and accurately assume the intent of a child from pattern recognizing communication that parents may struggle to understand. Every child would effectively develop a unique language for use with their AI co-parent that really only the AI understands.

This will happen naturally simply by exposure to AI that parents seem more than willing to allow as easily as tablets and smart phones and tv. Like siblings where one kid understands the other better that parent and translates those needs to the parent. Children raised on AI may end up communication to their caretakers better through the AI, just like the sibling, but worse. Their communication skills with people will suffer because more of their needs are getting met by communicating with AI. They practice communication with AI at the expense of communicating with people.

If a process that gets actionable results doesn’t require those skills, we will no longer develop them. As bad as it is for us, most of the reason we have education at all is because the business class needed educated workers. As soon as they don’t, support for education will collapse from the business side and with it, we all become American red states. If a student can get through their education, producing good enough answers with AI, why do they need to ever not use AI? If I can get an answer with a calculator I’ll always have access to, I simply exchange a mental math process with a calculator use process. If using AI is faster, with lower error rate, and can do more complex maths, we won’t need those mental math skills anymore. It would be a waste of time to learn them rather than learning AI related skills.

AI is going to upend things across society and we won’t be the ones deciding if it happens or what sacrifices were forced to make.

That’s entirely on you for using it for what its bad at and then claiming its bad at everything. I use it an LLM literally every day for work and it’s a time saver. I had to learn what its good for and what it’s not though. I also use the better available versions, not the publically available ones. Asking it questions about vague and subjective things isn’t where its best. Asking it to make an excel formula that does a thing without needing to even know a function exists to do that? Priceless.

I hear ya, but I can’t stop. I believe this change is significant and I don’t want to see them blindsided by their inability to see it today. One day imt he not so distant future, they won’t be able to avoid it and better that they are armed with some information for the day they can no longer avoid it.

100% agree. I wish people weren’t so dismissive because I don’t want to see them hurt because of their failure to see the future in the present.

It’s definitely not good for whole programs in one go or complex programming. Businesses hoping to replace coders isn’t really happening. But for bite sized code sections like a simple function or non-coders who need something that does a bespoke task in their life? It seems pretty effective. I don’t know a programming language but decided to try and automate my trading strategies and in a month I’d written a program in Python that automatically trades my opening strategy. I would never have been able to do that without chatGPT. It has effectively reduced the time it takes to have functional code significantly, especially as I need to use APIs which AI has been phenomenal at providing without needing to dig through the documentation.

It isn’t replacing engineers but it definitely helps save time and can empower non engineers to make useful programs without needing years of schooling.

A good horse rider was once better than an automobile for traveling on the dirt roads that existed. I have avoided just about every novel and ridiculously useless tech trend for 20 years, but I do not believe this is the same. This is a foundational change on par with the internet or the smart phone. If you can’t find a single use for AI in your life, then you will be left behind while others make significant improvements to theirs. More likely however, it we be unavoidable in the next decade as AI slowly becomes the user interface prefered by companies, which is already happening in customer service. Having used AI and LLM regularly for the last 3-4 months, there is no going back. You can choose to live in the past for as long as you able but your dependency on how you do things today will impede your ability to function in a future that makes those processes obsolete, especially as future generations grow up with AI from birth.

It isn’t too dumb to write code. It’s too dumb to write complex code. I use it to write code every week and it saves a ton of time. It has also greatly reduces the time it takes to produce effective code. Right now I have an automated trading program running that was written in Python in three weeks without ever knowing a programming language. If you are not finding AI useful, you’re simply not using it for what it is useful for. I do pay for the latest greatest chatGPT thought and the difference is significant from the publically available version.

Now imagine growing up where using your own words is less effective than having AI speak for you. Would you have not used AI as a kid when it worked better than your own words?

It’s incredibly effective for task assistance, especially with information that is logical and consistent, like maths, programming languages and hard science. What this means is that you no longer need to learn Excel formulas or programming. You tell it what you want it to do and it spits out the answer 90% of the time. If you don’t see the efficacy of AI, then you’re likely not using it for what it’s currently good at.

This is a reality as most people will abandon those skills, and many more will never learn them to begin with. I’m actually very worried about children who will grow up learning to communicate with AI and being dependent on it to effectively communicate with people and navigate the world, potentially needing AI as a communication assistant/translator.

AI is patient, always available, predicts desires and effectively assumes intent. If I type a sentence with spelling mistakes, chatgpt knows what I meant 99% of the time. This will mean children don’t need to spell or structure sentences correctly to effectively communicate with AI, which means they don’t need to think in a way other human being can understand, as long as an AI does. The more time kids spend with AI, the less developed their communication skills will be with people. GenZ and GenA already exhibit these issues without AI. Most people go experience this communicating across generations, as language and culture context changes. This will emphasize those differences to a problematic degree.

Kids will learn to communicate will people and with AI, but those two styles with be radically different. AI communication will be lazy, saying only enough for AI to understand. With communication history, which is inevitable tbh, and AI improving every day, it can develop a unique communication style for each child, what’s amounts to a personal language only the child and AI can understand. AI may learn to understand a child better than their parents do and make the child dependent on AI to effectively communicate, creating a corporate filter of communication between human being. The implications of this kind of dependency are terrifying. Your own kid talks to you through an AI translator, their teachers, friends, all their relationships could be impacted.

I have absolutely zero beleif that the private interests of these technology owners will benefit anyone other than themselves and at the expense of human freedom.

AI is here to stay. Anyone who refuses to learn how to use it to benefit their lives will be hurting their future. I’ve used a dozen or so AI tools and use a couple regularly and the efficacy of just chatGPT is clear. There is no going back, AI is your future whether you want it or not. AI will become your user interface for consumer electronics similarly to how consumer electronics seem to all require smart phone apps these days. Your smart phone is now the intermediary, using whatever AI the hardware manufacturers allow, such as Apple and Google using their own LLM AIs.